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Episode Two : Magical Mystery Holes, Marvin, & More

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Episode Two : Magical Mystery Holes, Marvin, & More

In this week’s comic yet somehow grounded response to Climate Change, we have news of a Siberian mystery (w/ real live Russian scientist,) Marvin Bloom from the Citizens Climate Brigade explaining how denial works, and news from the future that looks at the past about how we might deal with global warming in the present with Timothy Meadows (whose voice changes a lot. It may be a future thing.)  Our featured image is by Lori Hayes-Kershner.

Thanks for all the great comments over at our Climate Stew Facebook page and on Peterson’s Twitter.  You can now listen to this podcast on Stitcher, iTunes, and Podcatcher. Or of course listen here at Climate Stew. Since this is a NEW podcast, we want to get the word out. We need your help to share this with your friends and rate us where you listen. Comments are always very welcome!

Next week we’ll talk about the People’s Climate March that some of us attended. You can read Peterson’s piece in Huffpost about why he of all people marched in NYC on Sept 21.

Episode Two Show Notes


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Episode Two Transcript

Climate Stew Host Peterson Toscano (credit: Times of Malta)

Climate Stew Host Peterson Toscano (credit: Times of Malta)


Hello and welcome back for our 2nd episode of the Climate Stew Podcast. I’m Peterson Toscano feeling slightly hung over from the Peoples Climate March. More about that experience next episode. This week we have three segments to our show. First,  A holy news story, well not the kind of holy you might imagine. Second, we hear from new contributor, Marvin Bloom who talks about being a denier, well not the kind of denier you might be thinking of, and finally, Timothy Meadows with “That Day in Climate History.” We are trying to talk about global warming in ways you might not expect. Check out Climate Stew dot com for show notes and a full transcript of today’s show.


Our climate news

(music) Live Action News

Live from the studios of Climate Stew comes this climate news report. Our one global warming story this week has to do with holes, the mystery of holes, those weird ass holes in Siberia you’ve been hearing about. Where did they come from? How did they get there? And do they have anything to do with that new giant swimming dinosaur they found in the Sahara?


140719-siberia-hole-mn-1300_c2df14d662fc058dc28d8d170d9c11e6 Holy Crater Batman!

Um, actually no the holes have nothing to do with the Spinosaurus fossil remains recently uncovered in the part of the desert which was once a waterway that stretched across Northern Africa. No the three giant holes in Siberia were discovered accidentally  this summer by Russian helicopter pilots. These holes are massive. One of the smaller craters has a radius of over 130 feet, that’s about 40 meters across which is the height of the famous Jesus Statue looming over Rio de Janeiro or the length of the world’s largest dinosaur the Argentinosaurus Hew-in-cue-len-sis huinculensis.


One of the paleontologists lies next to the femur of sauropod Photo: MEF from the Independent the Holes

These are giant mysterious craters that go very very deep into the ground. Lots of theories have floated around about what may have caused them—UFOs or possibly meteors, but more and more scientists reckon that the magical mystery holes in Northern Russia were caused by either a collapsing Pingo, which according to Wikipedia “is a mound of earth-covered ice found in the Arctic and subarctic that can reach up to 70 metres (230 ft) in height and up to 600 m (2,000 ft) in diameter” So it could be a Pingo that collapsed or the possible scary scenario of a subterranean explosion of natural gas. According to one Russian scientist: “the Yamal area is rich in natural gas, and a pocket of this combined with water and salt could have produced quite a large explosion if the permafrost were punctured by climate-change-induced thaw” Which if true definitely pokes holes in climate skeptics’ theories. To learn more about the holes in Siberia and the world’s largest dinosaurs (which again have nothing to do with the holes) see our show notes at Climate Stew dot Com.

Main Segment


Marvin Bloom, in only known contemporary photo of him. “I told you I don’t like my picture taken!” (credit Tristan O’Brien)

Hi everyone my name is Marvin, Marvin Bloom, I’m from the Long Island chapter of the citizens climate brigade, that my partner Tristin dragged me into. Lots of people wonder about their friends and family who are climate deniers, skeptics. Tristin has his own theories about this, but whenever I hear about someone adamantly denying the reality of global warming, even though virtually every scientist in the world agrees that we are going to hell in a handbasket, I immediately think of Kubler-Ross. Yeah, you know the people who identified the five stages of grief.

I don’t know if Kubler-Ross is one person or five or whatever, but they say that when something big happens to us—like a loved one gets diagnosed with something awful, or we find out we won’t graduate on time, or Lady Gaga comes out normal, we go through stages of grief until we get to the place where we can accept the reality of what is happening in our lives.

And according to Kubler-Ross what’s the first stage of grief? Denial. Denial. We’re like—“no!, what are you talking about? mom can’t be sick; she’s never been sick a day in her life; she’s too big fail.” We fight against it and deny the possibility that something so terrible is happening to us. So here’s what I think about these people who are so intensely denying the reality of global warming. They are literally freaking out, because they knows its real. And I don’t like when people mock them, because at their core I feel climate skeptics grasp just how dire the situation is and then their minds and hearts rebel against the possibility.

But I truly believe that after all the denial, they’re gonna quickly work through the other stages of grief—all the anger, bargaining, depression, it’s gonna get messy, until they come to a place of acceptance and action. And think about—suddenly when all that negative energy they put into their denial gets redirected and harnessed to make a difference. To me there is something honest about the climate denier—emotionally honest, even when they got their facts all screwy.

Oh, and listen they are not the only types of deniers out there. Most of us are some sort of denier or working through our grief about our planet which is seriously sick. But do you know what’s the worst kind deniers? The hope deniers. They’re like,” it’s gone to far, we can’t do anything about global warming.” And that’s exactly what they do—Nothing well, except terrify people.

You know, but if I am honest, I am a denier too. Well not a climate change denier, I wish that were a hoax! No I’m alarmed about global warming. No, to be honest with you I am a denier about something completely different, I am a cholesterol denier. Yeah, I don’t believe cholesterol exists. It just a health scare manufactured by the grant-hungry American Heart Association and those Quaker Oats people. Tristan says I’m wrong about this, but he has his own healthy agenda he’s trying to shove down my throat. But that’s another story.

That Day in Climate History

I am Timothy Meadows, It is Saturday September 22, 2164 and time for “That Day in Climate History.” While many environmentalist groups rejoiced over the global tax on carbon and other greenhouse gases, by the year 2021, the poor and working class increasingly found themselves scrambling for food. The fossil fuel heavy agro-industrial complex, unwilling to change dirty farming practices, continued to pollute then passed the costs onto consumers. Food was plentiful but by January 2021 most people could no longer afford it. But that spring throughout South, Central, and North Americas a revolution of food production began. Harkening back to the times of rationing in World War Two with Victory Gardens in the UK and USA, and the abundant urban farming in besieged Leningrad, households and organizations began to plant crops everywhere. They tore up sidewalks, repurposed front lawns, created vertical gardens up the walls of their homes and businesses, overturned tables and transformed them into planters along with any other container that could hold dirt. Faith organizations, Gender Queer community centers, schools, and local councils funded youth workers and the unemployed to plant and maintain gardens in city parks, village squares, and abandoned lots. They also aided the elderly and disabled with their gardens. By November of that same year most communities had amassed at least a four month surplus of food that they stored and shared. The Plant Everywhere Movement or Plantamos en Todas Partes, fed millions and revolutionized food production during the Great Transition. On this day in 2164 we remember that day 143 years ago in Climate History.

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And this ends our second episode of climate stew podcast. You will find links, music credits, photos of holes, and a full transcript at Climate Stew dot com. You can now listen to this program through iTunes (please rate and review!) This podcast is dedicated to the memory of Brandon Bitner. Special thanks to Jennifer O’Brien, Lori Hayes-Kershner, Oh, and Joe G, my podcasting fairy godfather.



Author: Peterson Toscano

Peterson Toscano is a quirky queer Quaker concerned about Climate Change. His website is

This post has 3 Comments

  1. Susan Finn Miller on September 26, 2014 at 1:52 am

    Another great podcast. I am in love with Marvin. 🙂

    • Peterson Toscano on September 26, 2014 at 11:10 am

      So glad you love Marvin! I enjoy how Marvin is attempting to sound NPR in this episode. He almost gets it, but then personality crashes through lol. Thanks for listening and sharing!

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