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Episode Six–Global Warming Bubbles and Busting a Climate Change Myth

Meet Climate Stew team member, Dr. Kathy Straub, an atmospheric scientist who tries to straighten me out when it comes to my big fat carbon foot print. Also, turns out Positive Feedback, something I LOVE to receive as an actor and podcaster, in the climate world is not a good thing. Hear some news about a Conservative economist concerned about climate, and as always we have Timothy Meadows with That Day in Climate History. Listen here or on  iTunes, and Stitcher.

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Dr. Kathy Straub, an atmospheric scientist doing research and teaching at Susquehanna University.

Climate Change: Single Biggest Risk to the Economy says Henry Paulson

The Coming Climate Crash: Lessons Learned in the 2008 Recession

Citizens Climate Lobby advocating carbon fee and dividend.


Music Credits

Over and Over from Five Song Demo by Mark Chadwick

The Association News Theme by Jake Hallman

Saturday Night Special on Beat Tape 1 EP by BaaskaT

Dream On on Lush Life by Poldoore




It is great to be with you again for another episode of Climate Stew, the cheeky climate change podcast. Even though I have begun my North America tour, the Climate Stew Team and I will continue to serve up hot and spicy podcast episodes for you. In this episode meet Dr. Kathy Straub, an atmospheric scientist who teaches at Susquehanna University looking at climate and global change. She is the newest Climate Stew team member and sits down to straighten me out about some global warming misconceptions. We also hear a report from the year 2164 as Timothy Meadows shares That Day in Climate History, but first the news.

News: Climate Change: Biggest Risk to Economy is Climate Change



Photo courtesy of CGI2014: From Left to right: Judith Rodin, of the Rockefeller Foundation moderated a discussion with Henry Paulson, of the Paulson Institute and the Prime Minister of Denmark, Helle Thorning-Schmidt on climate change the global economy.

Our climate change news story this episode is about the economy. Wait, what? Yeah, turns out it’s not only scientists and lawmakers tracking the effects of global warming, but economists have begun to raise concerns about the possible financial consequences of a changing climate and the added costs of delaying action. They also are offering some possible economic models to address the situation.

Henry Paulson, who served as Treasury secretary under President George W. Bush, knows a thing or two about inflated bubbles that burst in our faces. He played a key role during the global financial meltdown of 2008 and compares the housing bubble that laid low economies worldwide to what he is seeing as a growing global warming bubble.

During a panel presentation at the Clinton Global Initiative Annual Meeting, Paulson framed the climate crisis in economic terms, “I am looking at this through the lens of risk – climate change is not only a risk to the environment but it is the single biggest risk that exists to the economy today,” He predicts that as governments and businesses partner to take on climate change and the necessary transition from dirty to clean energy, it will result in economic growth. Earlier in the year he specifically proposed a carbon tax as a way of curbing emissions and jumpstarting a market-driven energy revolution.

And if we know anything about how the world works, nothing motivates action faster than the fear of losing money and the promise of a get rich quick scheme. But the question is can the high and mighty business leaders and policy makers who harness capitalism to address our climate crisis do it with an eye towards justice? Likely input from the people on the ground is needed.

Main Section: Kathy Straub Interview

This week I sat down with Dr. Kathy Straub, an atmospheric scientist who knows a thing or two thousand about climate change. I first asked her about the misconceptions she needs to clear up with undergraduates who take one of her climate courses, and then it takes off from there. Warning: Myth Busting Ahead.

Kathy Straub, Ph.D.

Kathy Straub, Ph.D.

That Day in Climate History:

I am Timothy Meadows, It is Saturday October 20, 2164 and time for “That Day in Climate History.” As part of the successful Traffic Blockades of 2015 and 2016 business as usual ground to a halt. Climate activists created a crisis to highlight the growing climate crisis. As governments and policy makers sat up and took notice, climate activists began to articulate their demands.

They recognized that even if every citizen voluntarily chose to lower their personal carbon footprints, the larger overarching infrastructures remained tethered to greenhouse gases polluting the air capturing heat in the atmosphere. In order to radically curb fossil fuel emissions and jumpstart the Great Transition from dirty to clean energy, groups like the Citizens Climate Brigade educated the public about the benefits of a carbon tax.  They also aggressively lobbied lawmakers

With the rising tensions in the streets through the Traffic Blockades and other actions, by November 2017 policy makers began to seriously consider placing a fee on fossil fuels in spite of the opposition from the traditional energy sector.


Progressive lawmakers actually hindered the passage of a carbon fee bill because they insisted that the revenue collected be used to subsidize renewable energy and adaptation plans for costal cities. In an unlikely coalition of anti-tax Conservative Republicans and environmental justice activists, a carbon fee bill was successfully passed in the US Congress, one that specified that 100% of the revenue gathered would then be distributed to households to help with the inevitable rising energy costs, a move that protected poor and working class people in the US from slipping into deeper poverty during the tumultuous Great Transition.

On this day in 2164, we remember that day in Climate History.

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Thank you for listening to Climate Stew. See our show notes, music credits, and a partial transcript at Want to me Marvin Bloom, Timothy Meadows, and me as we travel on Amtrak across North America? Visit  to see the tour schedule. Special thanks to Katherine Straub, Karina Tefft, oh, and Joe G, who has introduced his own personal gas tax. Although I wish he would also consider carbon capture.

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